Creator(s): Paul Marteau
Date: 1930*, 1990
Country: France
Publisher: Dusserre
Number of Cards: 78
ISBN:
Type: Besancon / Marseilles
Reference: Encyclopedia of Tarot, vol. I, p. 138
Notes:
This is an exact photoreproduction (except that the 2 of Coins has Dusserre written on it instead of Grimaud) of the Paul Marteau Deck from 1930, which is part of the collection of the French Biblioteque Nationale. It has the fleurs-de-lys on the four of coins (not the tulip as later the editions by Grimaud) and on the magicans table are no dice but only coins.
The cards have the red stamp of the Bibliothéque national at the bottom. The cardboard used is thinner and the colors are lighter than in the Grimaud edition.
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Tarot of Marseilles - Ancien Tarot de Marseilles
Creator(s): Paul Marteau
Date: 1930*, reprint 1977?
Country: France
Publisher: Grimaud
Number of Cards: 78
ISBN:
Type: Besancon / Marseilles
Reference: Encyclopedia of Tarot, vol. I, p. 138
Notes:
The line drawings of the 1930 deck by Paul Marteau are exactly the line drawings of the Besancon type Arnoult-Grimaud deck, called "Tarot Italien," published in 1891 by Grimaud.
Marteau made a few minimal corrections on some details of the line drawings and changed the Juno and Jupiter cards to Papesse and Pape. The images for pape and papesse came from the Camoin-Conver pictures. He replaced the colours with others closely resembling those of the 1880 Camoin-Conver deck and gave his creation the name "Ancien Tarot de Marseille".
Flornoy believes that Paul Marteau wrote his book and his interpretations of the cards based on the coloring of a Camoin-Conver deck. As the Tarot Italien did not match the coloring of the Camoin-Conver deck, it was necessary to change the color of the pictures in order to match the meanings of Marteau's book.
The "Ancient Tarot de Marseilles" is not a reproduction of a historical deck that once disappeared, it can be regarded as a deck in print since 1891.
There are many little variations over the period from 1930 until today from which one can derive the year of publication (Coredil listed them on Aeclectic Tarot Forum). For e.g. the 1930 edition has 3 fleurs de Lys on the 4 of cups where later editions have the tulip, it has no dice on the table of the Bateleur but two red circles .
My version corresponds to type Deck11 in coredils list:
All cards have a copyright © GRIMAUD 1963, French and English titles,
background color white, red box with L'AMOUREUX on both sides
LWB: French and English
Copyright on the LWB: J.- M. Simon 1977
it has the usual blue pattern cardback
The deck came with 2 advertising cards.
In order to get enough space on the cards for the bilingual titles, the pictures have been changed. For example La Justice doesn't stay anymore on a ground, the lion in La Force looses his leg, Le Pendu is smaller and thiner, the sword of Le Diable has been shorten, the twins in Le soleil are much nearer to the sun, Le Monde and her guirlande are smaller, but the other figure did not change .
Date: 1930*, reprint 1977?
Country: France
Publisher: Grimaud
Number of Cards: 78
ISBN:
Type: Besancon / Marseilles
Reference: Encyclopedia of Tarot, vol. I, p. 138
Notes:
The line drawings of the 1930 deck by Paul Marteau are exactly the line drawings of the Besancon type Arnoult-Grimaud deck, called "Tarot Italien," published in 1891 by Grimaud.
Marteau made a few minimal corrections on some details of the line drawings and changed the Juno and Jupiter cards to Papesse and Pape. The images for pape and papesse came from the Camoin-Conver pictures. He replaced the colours with others closely resembling those of the 1880 Camoin-Conver deck and gave his creation the name "Ancien Tarot de Marseille".
Flornoy believes that Paul Marteau wrote his book and his interpretations of the cards based on the coloring of a Camoin-Conver deck. As the Tarot Italien did not match the coloring of the Camoin-Conver deck, it was necessary to change the color of the pictures in order to match the meanings of Marteau's book.
The "Ancient Tarot de Marseilles" is not a reproduction of a historical deck that once disappeared, it can be regarded as a deck in print since 1891.
There are many little variations over the period from 1930 until today from which one can derive the year of publication (Coredil listed them on Aeclectic Tarot Forum). For e.g. the 1930 edition has 3 fleurs de Lys on the 4 of cups where later editions have the tulip, it has no dice on the table of the Bateleur but two red circles .
My version corresponds to type Deck11 in coredils list:
All cards have a copyright © GRIMAUD 1963, French and English titles,
background color white, red box with L'AMOUREUX on both sides
LWB: French and English
Copyright on the LWB: J.- M. Simon 1977
it has the usual blue pattern cardback
The deck came with 2 advertising cards.
In order to get enough space on the cards for the bilingual titles, the pictures have been changed. For example La Justice doesn't stay anymore on a ground, the lion in La Force looses his leg, Le Pendu is smaller and thiner, the sword of Le Diable has been shorten, the twins in Le soleil are much nearer to the sun, Le Monde and her guirlande are smaller, but the other figure did not change .
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